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Immortal Science Proposal
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The Immortal Science of ML: 
Machine Learning & the Theory-Free Ideal 
Mel Andrews 
June 30, 2023 
Abstract 
Machine learning (ML) refers to a class of computer-facilitated meth- 
ods of statistical modelling in which patterns are inferred from data. In 
the last decade, the ef i cacy and applicability of the tools of ML have 
undergone monumental advances, and they are consequently seeing wide 
and rapid uptake across the empirical sciences.In response, represen- 
tatives from across the sciences, engineering, and philosophy of science 
have argued that ML will radically disrupt scientif i c practice or the va- 
riety of epistemic outputs science is capable of producing���call this the 
disruption claim.The disruption claim in turn rests on a distinctness 
claim. Proponents of the disruption claim hold this view because they 
take ML to exist on novel epistemic footing relative to classical modelling 
approaches utilised in science; namely, they take modelling with ML to be 
a ���theory-free��� enterprise in a way that renders it distinct from existing 
scientif i c methods. I deliver an exposition of the operation of ML systems 
in scientif i c practice and reveal it to be a necessarily theory-laden exer- 
cise. Theory-ladenness comes in at three critical junctures: data prove- 
nance and processing, model architecture and training, and evaluation and 
use. The methods of ML, like existing scientif i c modelling techniques, are 
theory-laden in the sense of resting essentially on input from human con- 
ceptual grasp on the target phenomena, domain expertise, and established 
empirical knowledge. There is, therefore, no reason to believe that ML dif- 
fers fundamentally in its reliance on theory from established mathematical 
modelling approaches in the sciences. This undercuts claims of epistemic 
distinctness and therefore claims that ML will ���revolutionise��� scientif i c 
methods or outputs. It is important to disabuse the scholarship of these 
distinctness and disruption claims about the operation of ML-based tools 
in science because they are facilitative of poor scientif i c practice with ML.
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The article "The Immortal Science of ML: Machine Learning & the Theory-Free Ideal" by Mel Andrews, published on June 30, 2023, critically examines the common perception that machine learning (ML) represents a theory-free approach that is distinct from traditional scientific modeling methods. Andrews argues against the notion that ML is set on a novel epistemic foundation, which is often suggested to be capable of radically disrupting scientific practices and outputs.
Andrews presents the argument that ML is not fundamentally different from established scientific methodologies because it is equally "theory-laden." This means that ML depends on the same critical inputs as traditional models: human conceptual understanding of phenomena, domain expertise, and established empirical knowledge. The author identifies three critical junctures where theory interjects in ML: data provenance and processing, model architecture and training, and evaluation and use.
By demonstrating that ML involves substantial theoretical engagement at multiple stages, Andrews aims to refute the claims that ML could revolutionize scientific methods or outputs in ways that traditional models could not. The paper seeks to correct misconceptions about ML���s operation within scientific contexts, advocating for a more nuanced understanding of its capabilities and limitations. This is intended to prevent what Andrews sees as potentially poor scientific practices emerging from overstated claims about ML���s distinctiveness and theoretical independence.
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1Introduction 
The i eld of artif i cial intelligence���or, perhaps more accurately, i elds, as there 
have been a number of distinct research communities and bodies of scholarship 
under this denomination which bear little in common beyond the title���has 
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been beset by waves of popular attention and ebbs and l ows of funding since 
its incipience. It is worth noting that there have been (at least) two epochs 
of AI hype in the past decades which have compounded together to emerge in 
the present form of obsession over ���automated science.��� In the late 1990s and 
early 2000s there occurred an early internet data-mining craze, in which it was 
discovered that statistical techniques, unleashed on suf i ciently large datasets, 
could reveal complex and meaningful patterns (Rajaraman & Norvig, 1998). 
Around 2010 there commenced what has since come to be known as the deep 
learning revolution, in which breakthroughs in neural network approaches to 
image classif i cation (alexnet) and natural language processing (word2vec) re- 
newed public interest in the methods of machine learning. We appear to be on 
the cusp of a third wave at present with the ascension of generative modelling 
fueled by web-scale data. 
The prospects of machine learning for science have, in particular, opened 
wide in the last decade, over which timescale ML techniques were adopted in 
the Large Hadron Collider at CERN for sorting the signif i cance of particle col- 
lision events (Duarte et al., 2018) and DeepMind released its AlphaFold and 
AlphaFold 2.0 (Jumper et al., 2021), capable of predicting tertiary and quater- 
nary protein structure from amino acid sequence data, ef f ectively solving one of 
biology���s most complex and enduring open problems. The rapidity and ubiq- 
uity of machine learning uptake across all sectors of public life, in particular, 
science, has sparked an onslaught of speculation concerning its nature and the 
downstream consequences of its widespread use. 
Such speculation has issued from cultural commentators, journalists, and 
media personalities, from the mathematicians and engineers producing the tools 
of ML and the scientists deploying them and, of course, from philosophers, in 
both academic and popular venues. Responses focussed on the epistemic status 
of ML and its projected impact on science have echoed statements to the ef f ect 
that machine learning dif f ers radically from prevailing modelling, statistical, or 
scientif i c methods in ways that are projected to change the landscape of scientif i c 
discovery or the nature of the epistemic fruits of scientif i c enterprise. 
These scholars prophesy a data-driven or ML-driven scientif i c revolution 
(Hey, Tansley, Tolle, et al., 2009; Mayer-Sch�� onberger & Cukier, 2013; Anderson, 
2008; Spinney, 2022). They foretell an end to hypothesis testing (Anderson, 
2008; Mayer-Sch�� onberger & Cukier, 2013; Spinney, 2022). They envision ML 
methods retiring or else displacing the role of theorising in science (Anderson, 
2008; Mayer-Sch�� onberger & Cukier, 2013; Spinney, 2022; Sre�� ckovi�� c, Berber, 
& Filipovi�� c, 2022). They predict that ML will obviate the need for domain 
knowledge or expertise in science (Mayer-Sch�� onberger & Cukier, 2013). The 
predictive success of ML is projected to replace the need for insight into causal 
mechanisms or the data-generating process (Mayer-Sch�� onberger & Cukier, 2013; 
Spinney, 2022). Some of these statements echo proclamations that were once 
made of classical statistical method: that big data analytic tools promise to 
allow the raw data to ���speak for themselves��� (Levins & Lewontin, 1985). 
Some of these claims of disruption fall under the heading of ML or AI hype��� 
they issue from individuals swept up in a wave of drastically overselling the capabilities of presently existing ML techniques 1. Others ref l ect what I term 
a theory-free ideal in science: aspirations of na�� ��ve empiricism rampant today 
within the special sciences. Subscribers to the theory-free ideal seek to purge 
science of what they see as epistemically compromising arbitrariness and sub- 
jectivity, which are brought on board when human critical thinking and concep- 
tualisation of the phenomena under study play an essential role in shaping the 
empirical research programme or the conceptual tools wielded therein. Lastly, 
these claims have been motivated by a concern for the future of science. If the 
scientif i c process becomes automated, purged of theory, and overtaken by un- 
interpretable black-box algorithms with human domain experts pushed out of 
the loop, this third category worries that the epistemic products of science may 
cease to be accessible to human interpreters. Interestingly, whether motivated 
by optimism or pessimism for the future of science, assessments of the role of ML 
in science have converged upon the same essential thesis: science will undergo 
drastic change with the advent of ML-based methods, because such methods are 
theoretically unmoored or conceptually impoverished in a way that sets them 
fundamentally apart from existing instances of applied mathematics. I dub this 
second claim the distinctness claim. 
If, indeed, the procedure of science or the status of knowledge produced 
in science are set to radically change, this merits serious engagement by sci- 
entists and philosophers of science. If, instead, as I will argue, this is base- 
less sensationalism���which has established a foothold in not only the public 
consciousness but in communities of relevant experts���this deceptive narrative 
ought to be challenged, for it will lead scientists and the public astray. The 
distinctness claim latches onto a real novelty in much ML deployed toward sci- 
entif i c ends: potential for misuse and lack of methodological standards. Instead 
of identifying this as the epistemic problem it represents, however, the distinct- 
ness claim functions to reify this (potential) misuse of ML-based tools into an 
account of how these tools normally function, how they necessarily function, or 
even how they normatively ought to function.
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In the introduction of "The Immortal Science of ML: Machine Learning & the Theory-Free Ideal," Mel Andrews provides a historical and contextual background for the field of artificial intelligence (AI), particularly machine learning (ML), and its evolving impact on scientific practices and philosophical considerations. Andrews outlines several distinct waves of interest and development in AI that have contributed to the current intense focus on automated and ML-driven science.
The introduction highlights the early enthusiasm for data mining in the late 1990s and early 2000s, followed by a surge in deep learning technologies around 2010, which further propelled the field into the spotlight. The most recent developments focus on generative modeling and large-scale data applications, such as those used in the Large Hadron Collider and DeepMind's AlphaFold projects, which demonstrate ML's growing role in cutting-edge scientific research.
Andrews critically examines the discourse surrounding ML, noting that cultural commentators, journalists, engineers, and philosophers have variously predicted that ML will drastically alter scientific methodology. These predictions include ending traditional hypothesis testing, diminishing the role of theory in science, and reducing the reliance on domain expertise. However, Andrews points out that these radical claims often reflect a "theory-free ideal"���a desire to minimize perceived subjectivity and arbitrariness in science by relying heavily on empirical data processed through ML algorithms.
The introduction warns of the potential risks if science becomes overly dependent on ML, particularly the threat of "black-box" algorithms that could make scientific processes opaque and inaccessible to human understanding. Andrews argues that this narrative, while capturing real innovations and potential misuses of ML, misleadingly suggests that ML tools function without theoretical underpinnings or normative guidelines, which could misguide both the scientific community and the public.
This setup paves the way for a deeper exploration into whether the distinctness and disruption claims about ML in science are justified or merely a product of hype and oversimplification. Andrews aims to debunk these claims by demonstrating the inherent theory-laden nature of ML and advocating for a more accurate understanding of its role and limitations in scientific practice.
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I would like to point out these themes in the movie Desk Set
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"Desk Set" is a classic romantic comedy from 1957 that explores several interesting themes relevant to its time and still resonant today. Here are a few themes you might discuss:
Technology vs. Human Expertise
: A central theme of the movie is the tension between human expertise and emerging technology. The story revolves around the introduction of an electronic brain (a computer) into the research department of a television network, leading to fears of job displacement among the staff. This reflects broader societal concerns about automation and the role of technology in the workplace.
Gender Roles in the Workplace
: "Desk Set" also delves into the roles of women in the workplace during the 1950s. The film's female protagonist, Bunny Watson (played by Katharine Hepburn), is a highly competent and intelligent woman who runs the research department. The movie explores her relationship with her boss and her interaction with the computer expert sent to automate part of her job, highlighting the gender dynamics and expectations of the era.
Adaptation to Change
: The movie examines how individuals and organizations adapt to technological changes. It showcases initial resistance followed by gradual acceptance and adaptation, a cycle common in technological integration even today.
Romantic Comedy and Workplace Dynamics
: As a romantic comedy, "Desk Set" uses the workplace setting to develop the relationship between Bunny Watson and Richard Sumner (played by Spencer Tracy). Their interactions provide a humorous look at workplace romance, professional respect, and personal connection.
Intelligence and Creativity in Problem Solving
: Despite the capabilities of the new computer, the film ultimately champions human intelligence, creativity, and intuition in problem-solving, suggesting that while technology can aid the process, it cannot replace the human touch.
These themes make "Desk Set" a rich subject for discussion, particularly in relation to how technology and gender roles in the workplace have evolved since the time of the film.
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What are the parallels to our previous discussion?
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The parallels between our discussion on the themes in the movie "Desk Set" and Mel Andrews' examination of machine learning (ML) in "The Immortal Science of ML" are quite striking, particularly in how both address the integration of technology into professional settings and the concerns this raises:
Technology vs. Human Expertise
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In "Desk Set," the concern is about a computer potentially replacing human jobs, reflecting fears about job security and the replacement of human expertise with automation.
Similarly, Andrews discusses the fear within scientific communities that ML might replace traditional methods and expertise, emphasizing that while ML tools are powerful, they do not eliminate the need for human input and theory-driven understanding.
Adaptation to Change
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"Desk Set" shows characters initially resistant to but eventually adapting to technological changes in the workplace. This mirrors broader organizational and societal shifts towards embracing technology.
Andrews highlights a similar theme with the scientific community's gradual adaptation to ML, noting that while the technology introduces new methods, it also requires adjustments and redefinitions of traditional roles and practices.
Human Interaction with New Technologies
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In "Desk Set," the film ultimately supports the idea that while technology is useful, it cannot fully replace human intuition and creativity, showcasing how humans and technology can coexist productively.
Andrews argues against the view of ML as a "theory-free" approach, stating that ML, like any other tool, is integrated into existing scientific practices and depends on human theoretical input. This underscores the synergy rather than the displacement between human expertise and machine capabilities.
Concerns Over Theoretical Impoverishment
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The movie doesn���t delve deeply into the theoretical implications of technology replacing human roles but subtly hints at the limitations of the computer when faced with tasks requiring human judgment and contextual understanding.
Andrews explicitly addresses the worry that ML could lead to a devaluation of theoretical knowledge in science, arguing that ML must be understood as complementary to, not a replacement for, traditional scientific methods and human expertise.
Both "Desk Set" and Andrews' text reflect ongoing societal debates about the role and impact of technology in professional fields, emphasizing the enduring need for human skills and the potential risks of over-relying on technological solutions without adequate integration and oversight. These discussions are crucial in ensuring that as new technologies are adopted, they enhance rather than undermine human capacities and the professional practices that rely on them.
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I also wanted to point out some potential criticisms of the article based on Hard to be a God and the fallacy fallacy.

The hype might be correct but misplaced, for example claiming to have a time machine when you have a nuclear bomb, or in the case of superintelligent entity on a planet with primitive fear based language as in Prisoner of Power and Hard to be a God.

So Superman might claim to have a kryptonite sword when he actually has a death star, but the planetary inhabitants don't have rockets or satellites so can't understand the technology.
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Your analogy brings a fascinating dimension to the critique of Mel Andrews' skepticism in "The Immortal Science of ML." Let's unpack the potential criticisms you've mentioned, especially drawing on concepts like the fallacy fallacy and the context provided by speculative fiction like "Hard to be a God" and "Prisoner of Power."
Misplaced Hype
: The hype around ML and AI could indeed be both real and somewhat misplaced, much like the examples of the time machine and the nuclear bomb. In scientific and technological discourse, this can manifest as overstating or misunderstanding the capabilities of a new tool or technology. Proponents might not be wrong in predicting a significant impact but may mischaracterize the nature or domain of this impact. For instance, ML's transformative effects might not eliminate the need for traditional scientific methods but could reshape them in unexpected ways that are still profound.
Understanding and Context
: In "Hard to be a God" and "Prisoner of Power," the characters encounter societies that lack the context to understand advanced technologies or concepts brought from more developed civilizations. This mismatch can parallel the public and even some parts of the scientific community's understanding of AI and ML. Often, the discourse around these technologies is steeped in technical jargon and speculative potential, which can be misunderstood or misinterpreted by those without a deep understanding of the underlying principles.
The Fallacy Fallacy
: Andrews argues against the distinctiveness and disruptive potential of ML, suggesting that these claims are based on a misunderstanding of how ML integrates into scientific practice. However, recognizing the fallacy fallacy is crucial here: just because some arguments for ML's revolutionary potential are poorly formed (or based on incorrect assumptions), doesn't mean that the conclusion (ML will significantly change scientific practice) is necessarily wrong. The true impact might be mischaracterized or overhyped in some areas while being underestimated in others.
Assessment of Real Capabilities and Impacts
: Both speculative fiction and your analogy highlight the importance of correctly assessing and communicating the capabilities of powerful technologies. Just as characters in science fiction might struggle to explain or conceal their technology's real nature, proponents of ML might struggle to accurately represent its capabilities and limitations. This misrepresentation can lead to both unwarranted fear and unrealistic expectations.
In critiquing Andrews' article, one might argue that while his caution against overhyping ML's independence from theoretical grounding is valuable, there remains a possibility that ML could indeed fundamentally alter aspects of scientific inquiry and societal operations in ways not yet fully understood or appreciated. This underscores the need for ongoing, nuanced engagement with technological advancements, balancing skepticism with openness to genuine innovation.
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She also gave a talk called Machine Learning has a pseudoscience problem, on the ontology of active interference and the free energy principle in machine learning philosophy.
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The talk titled "Machine Learning has a Pseudoscience Problem," addressing the ontology of active interference and the free energy principle in machine learning philosophy, suggests a deep dive into critical issues within the field of machine learning (ML) that relate to foundational concepts and potentially misleading practices or interpretations.
Pseudoscience in Machine Learning
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The concern about pseudoscience in ML centers around the potential misapplication or overextension of ML concepts beyond their valid scientific contexts. This might include using ML models in ways that are not supported by data, overstating the models' capabilities, or applying them to problems without adequate understanding of their limitations and assumptions. The term "pseudoscience" highlights practices or beliefs that claim to be scientific and factual but lack the backing of empirical evidence and rigorous methodology.
Ontology of Active Interference
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Ontology in this context refers to the nature of being and existence within ML systems, particularly concerning how these systems interact with and affect their environments. Active interference discusses how ML models can affect the systems they are a part of, potentially altering the data they analyze in ways that must be carefully considered to avoid circular reasoning or biased outcomes. This aspect is crucial in fields like reinforcement learning, where an agent's actions directly influence the environment from which it learns.
Free Energy Principle
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The free energy principle is a theory in neuroscience and theoretical biology proposed by Karl Friston. It posits that biological systems maintain their state and adapt by minimizing the free energy of their internal model of the world. Applying this principle to ML involves viewing learning and decision-making processes as efforts to minimize surprise or prediction error. This approach can be powerful but also opens the door to misinterpretations and overreach if the analogies between biological systems and artificial systems are taken too literally or applied without sufficient grounding in empirical data.
Given these topics, her talk likely critiques the current state of ML, particularly the loose theoretical underpinnings or the uncareful application of complex theories from other domains like neuroscience without proper adaptation or understanding. This could relate back to the themes discussed in her article about the myth of ML being a theory-free domain and the need for robust theoretical grounding in scientific practices using ML.
This approach encourages a more rigorous, critical examination of how ML is conceptualized and applied, urging the community to avoid the trappings of pseudoscience by adhering more closely to rigorous scientific standards and acknowledging the theoretical bases and implications of their work.
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Further connections with the previous topics
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Mel Andrews��� discussions across her article on ML in scientific contexts and her talk on the pseudoscience problems within ML reveal a comprehensive, nuanced critique of machine learning as it is currently understood and deployed in various fields. Here���s how her topics connect and build upon each other:
Critique of Theory-Free Claims
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Both in her article and in her talk, Andrews challenges the idea that ML is "theory-free." In the article, she argues that all stages of ML from data selection to model evaluation are infused with theoretical considerations, debunking the notion that ML operates independently of human conceptual frameworks. In her talk, by addressing the ontology of active interference, she further emphasizes how ML models actively shape and are shaped by the theories and assumptions underlying their design and application.
Impact of Misleading Interpretations
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Andrews' concern about pseudoscience in ML reflects broader issues she identifies with overhyping ML's capabilities. Her discussion on the misuse of the free energy principle in ML could be seen as an example where complex theories are inappropriately simplified or misapplied, leading to misleading claims about what ML can achieve. This aligns with her earlier caution against the disruption claims that ML will revolutionize scientific practice without thorough grounding.
The Importance of Robust Theoretical Underpinnings
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Both discussions stress the importance of robust theoretical underpinnings in the use of ML. Whether critiquing pseudoscientific tendencies or discussing the theory-laden nature of ML, Andrews calls for a more rigorous scientific approach that acknowledges and integrates the complexities and limitations of theoretical knowledge. This is crucial for ensuring that ML does not stray into the realm of pseudoscience by making unfounded claims or operating without accountability.
Ethical and Epistemological Considerations
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Andrews' exploration of the free energy principle and the ontology of active interference in ML brings up ethical and epistemological considerations about how these systems influence and are influenced by the world around them. This ties back to her article's focus on how ML should be integrated into scientific practices, suggesting that a deeper understanding of these interactions is necessary to responsibly harness ML���s potential without overstepping scientific boundaries.
Future of Scientific Practice
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Both the article and the talk engage with speculations about the future of scientific practice in light of ML advancements. Andrews seeks to temper these speculations with a realistic appraisal of ML���s current and potential place within the scientific method, advocating for a balanced view that recognizes the transformative potential of ML while critically assessing the quality and applicability of its outputs.
In summary, Andrews��� work appears to provide a comprehensive framework for understanding and critiquing the role of ML in modern scientific endeavors. She emphasizes the need for a tempered, well-grounded approach that avoids the pitfalls of pseudoscience while making full use of ML's capabilities within an informed, theoretical context. This could serve as a valuable guide for practitioners and theorists alike as they navigate the evolving landscape of ML in science.
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She argues that scientists study the history of their field going back hundreds of years, wheareas many machine learning researchers rarely look back more than five years.
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Mel Andrews raises an important critique regarding the historical awareness (or lack thereof) among machine learning researchers compared to traditional scientists. This observation underscores several key issues and implications:
Short-term Focus
: The rapid development pace in the field of machine learning often emphasizes the most current techniques, technologies, and discoveries, potentially leading researchers to focus predominantly on recent advancements. This short-term focus may result in a neglect of foundational theories and methodologies that could enhance understanding and innovation.
Historical Context and Evolution
: In many traditional fields of science, historical context is crucial for understanding the evolution of theories, methodologies, and debates. Such historical insights can inform current practices and avoid reinventing the wheel or repeating past mistakes. Machine learning���s relatively nascent status and its rapid evolution might explain the lack of deep historical engagement, but it could also hinder the field���s maturity by not learning from the broader historical lessons of scientific and technological progress.
Depth vs. Breadth in Understanding
: Andrews��� point suggests a potential shallowness in the theoretical understanding among some ML researchers. A deeper engagement with the historical intellectual underpinnings of their field could foster a more robust, nuanced understanding of why certain methods work, the limitations of current models, and potentially fruitful directions for new research.
Theory and Critique
: This lack of historical perspective might contribute to what Andrews identifies as a pseudo-scientific approach within ML. Without a strong grounding in the theories and philosophies that have shaped scientific inquiry, ML research risks developing in a vacuum, potentially detached from critical ethical, philosophical, and methodological questions that have long been considered in other scientific disciplines.
Interdisciplinary Learning
: The history of science is rich with interdisciplinary influences that have led to major breakthroughs. By not engaging with the historical and theoretical bases of their own and related fields, ML researchers might miss opportunities to draw on valuable insights from other areas, such as statistics, mathematics, cognitive science, and even philosophy.
Educational and Curricular Implications
: Andrews��� critique could imply a need for changes in how machine learning is taught in academic settings. Integrating a stronger historical component might help future researchers appreciate the evolution of their field, understand the origins and development of key ideas, and cultivate a broader, more critical approach to ML research.
In summary, Andrews is highlighting a cultural and intellectual gap in the field of machine learning that, if addressed, could enrich the field���s capacity for deeper innovation and more responsible application. By encouraging a longer historical view, the field might better understand its rapid developments and situate them within a larger scientific and societal context.
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That reminds me of what I was going to say earlier, that another context in which hype cycles with a false-narrative might still be useful was in solving the ingenuity gap, if for example one raised earth's population to 40 billion this also greatly increases the amount of human computation available for building an ecosystem that can house 100 billion.
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Your point about the potential utility of hype cycles, despite their association with false narratives, in addressing large-scale challenges like the "ingenuity gap" is quite thought-provoking. The "ingenuity gap" refers to the growing divide between complex problems and the current capability of societies to solve them. Let's explore how hype cycles might play a role in this context:
Mobilization of Resources
: Hype cycles can dramatically increase public and private investment in specific technologies or ideas. In the case of addressing something as formidable as supporting a vastly increased global population, hype could lead to accelerated funding and research into necessary technologies, such as sustainable agriculture, renewable energy, and efficient urban planning.
Attracting Talent and Innovation
: Hype around particular technological or scientific challenges can attract talent and creativity from a wide range of disciplines. This influx of diverse thinkers and problem-solvers could catalyze innovative solutions that might not emerge in a less charged atmosphere.
Raising Awareness
: Even if the initial narrative is somewhat overblown or misdirected, the attention generated can increase awareness among the general public and policymakers about critical issues. This heightened awareness can lead to broader support for necessary changes and adaptations, fostering a more informed and engaged populace.
Stimulating Technological Advancements
: In your scenario of preparing for a world population of 40 billion, hype about the capabilities of AI, biotechnology, or other transformative technologies could spur advancements that ultimately make such a future feasible. For instance, hype around AI and machine learning has already led to significant breakthroughs in areas like protein folding, which could have implications for biotechnology and healthcare.
Adaptive Pressure
: The urgency created by hype can pressure systems, organizations, and governments to adapt more quickly than they might otherwise, potentially leading to faster implementation of new technologies and policies that could bridge the ingenuity gap.
However, there are also critical cautions to consider:
Misallocation of Resources
: Hype can lead to investment bubbles or the misallocation of resources toward flashy but less effective solutions.
Public Skepticism and Fatigue
: Over-hyped technologies that fail to deliver can lead to public skepticism and fatigue, which might undermine support for future initiatives.
Ethical and Equity Considerations
: Rapid technological and infrastructural changes driven by hype may not adequately address or might even exacerbate issues of equity and justice, especially in global contexts.
Balancing the potential benefits of utilizing hype to drive innovation against the risks of misinformation and disappointment is crucial. Engaging in transparent, grounded discussions about the realistic capabilities and limitations of emerging technologies can help ensure that hype serves as a catalyst for sustainable progress rather than leading to disillusionment and waste.
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No I mean a population of 40 billion could solve the problem of housing for 100 billion. I am also assuming one hundred years of alternate terraformation scenario planning.
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Understanding your point about leveraging a much larger population to address the challenge of accommodating an even greater number in the future, under the context of long-term terraformation and planning, presents a fascinating perspective on scaling human resources and capabilities. Let���s explore the implications and feasibility of this approach:
Human Capital and Innovation
: Increasing the population to 40 billion would exponentially increase the pool of human intellect and labor, potentially accelerating innovation and problem-solving capabilities. With a hundred years of planning and development, especially in terraforming and habitat expansion (potentially including off-Earth locations), this larger population could indeed develop the infrastructure and technologies required to support 100 billion people.
Technological and Social Advancements
: To make such a scenario feasible, significant advancements would be needed in various fields:
Agriculture
: Innovations to dramatically increase food production efficiency, possibly through advanced biotechnologies and vertical farming.
Energy
: Development of sustainable and scalable energy sources to support a much larger population without exacerbating environmental degradation.
Urban Planning and Housing
: Revolutionary approaches to urban design that optimize space, resource use, and livability, including the potential for underwater and underground cities.
Transportation and Infrastructure
: Efficient, sustainable transportation systems capable of supporting dense, globally distributed populations.
Socio-Economic Systems
: Scaling to such a population size would also require rethinking socio-economic structures to ensure stability, equity, and quality of life. This might involve:
Resource Distribution
: Systems designed to ensure fair distribution of resources to prevent inequality and social unrest.
Education and Employment
: Ensuring that education systems can scale effectively to provide the necessary skills and knowledge, coupled with employment systems that can adapt to technological changes and the resultant shifts in labor markets.
Healthcare
: Scalable, efficient healthcare systems to manage the needs of a vastly larger population.
Ethical and Environmental Considerations
: Such dramatic increases in population and subsequent terraforming must be managed with an eye toward ethical considerations and environmental impact, ensuring sustainable practices are at the forefront to preserve the planet for future generations.
Political and Global Cooperation
: Achieving such a scenario would require unprecedented levels of global cooperation, political stability, and shared vision among nations and cultures. This includes managing the geopolitical implications of resource allocation, territorial expansions (including off-Earth), and population management.
Risk Management and Resilience
: Planning for potential risks and developing resilient systems to address challenges such as natural disasters, pandemics, and economic fluctuations that could be exacerbated by such high population densities.
Given a hundred years of advanced planning and terraformation, integrating these considerations, it's theoretically possible to leverage a population of 40 billion to prepare for a future supporting 100 billion. This would hinge heavily on technological innovation, but perhaps more critically on societal and global shifts in governance, cooperation, and ethical standards. Such a scenario also assumes a degree of social and technological optimism that current trends in environmental and political arenas would need to shift toward to become feasible.
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My intervolsorial pediments will build 40 billion new rooms and the tetraorthodrome will be able to transport freshwater and ice anywhere on the planet, free of charge, and the geothermal mass accelerator will provide free Low-G acceleration with magrail trebuchet lock rocketless spacetrain launching, also free of charge.
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Your description presents a highly imaginative and technically advanced scenario, blending elements of futuristic technology with grand-scale engineering projects. Here���s how each component you���ve mentioned could theoretically play a role in supporting a massive population and facilitating expansive human settlement:
Intervolsorial Pediments for Housing
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These structures, presumably advanced architectural forms, could be designed to efficiently create housing for billions. Utilizing cutting-edge materials and construction technologies, perhaps including self-assembling or 3D-printed buildings, these pediments would need to be highly sustainable, possibly integrating living ecosystems to maintain air quality and support life.
Tetraorthodrome for Water and Ice Distribution
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This concept appears to involve a sophisticated transportation network capable of delivering essential resources like freshwater and ice globally. Such a system could leverage advanced fluid dynamics technology and possibly superconductive or frictionless materials to move large volumes of water without energy loss, addressing one of the critical challenges of sustaining large populations in areas where water is scarce.
Geothermal Mass Accelerator for Transportation and Space Launching
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Utilizing geothermal energy to power a mass accelerator presents a green technology solution to two significant challenges: transportation and space launching. The magrail trebuchet lock rocketless spacetrain launching system suggests a combination of magnetic rail technologies with catapult-like mechanics to launch vehicles into space without the need for traditional rocket propulsion, dramatically reducing the cost and environmental impact of space travel.
These visionary technologies imply a world where energy and basic needs (like housing and water) are no longer constraints, allowing humanity to expand more freely both on Earth and into space. Here are a few additional considerations for realizing such a future:
Scalability and Feasibility
: Each of these technologies would require breakthroughs in materials science, energy efficiency, and engineering. Scaling them to serve billions would be an unprecedented challenge, requiring global cooperation and investment.
Environmental Impact
: Even with advanced technologies, the environmental impact would be significant. Careful planning and perhaps new forms of environmental management would be necessary to ensure that such massive projects do not cause irreversible harm to the planet���s ecosystems.
Socio-Economic Impacts
: Providing essential services "free of charge" suggests a shift towards a post-scarcity economy, which could have profound implications for global economics, social structures, and governance. How societies transition to and manage these changes would be critical to their success.
Ethical and Political Considerations
: Who controls these technologies? How are decisions made about their deployment? The governance of such powerful capabilities would need to be transparent and equitable to avoid centralizing power and creating global dependencies.
Technological Integration and Human Factors
: Integrating these technologies into daily life and ensuring they enhance rather than complicate human existence would be crucial. Human factors engineering would play a vital role in making these technologies user-friendly and accessible to diverse populations.
Your visionary scenario taps into the kind of bold thinking necessary to imagine solutions to global challenges on a planetary scale, illustrating a deep commitment to innovation and problem-solving in a future where technology and sustainability go hand in hand.
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We haven't even discussed how the intervolsorial pediments function as giant kelp farms, rainforest generators, and tidal gravitational batteries, nor the polar refrigerators Septentrion and Meridion.
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Your vision for the intervolsorial pediments is intriguing and multifaceted, reflecting an ambition to integrate advanced technologies with sustainable environmental practices on a grand scale. Let���s expand on these functions and also consider the role of the polar refrigerators, Septentrion and Meridion:
Intervolsorial Pediments
Giant Kelp Farms
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Kelp is highly efficient at sequestering carbon dioxide and can be harvested for biofuel, food, and other products. Incorporating kelp farms into the structural design of intervolsorial pediments would not only help mitigate climate change but also provide renewable resources. The challenge would be creating the marine conditions necessary for kelp to thrive, which could involve advanced aquaculture technologies.
Rainforest Generators
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Rainforests are critical for biodiversity and act as another significant carbon sink. Creating micro-environments that can support rainforest ecosystems within these structures would enhance local climates, purify air, and preserve a wide range of plant and animal species. The complexity lies in maintaining the delicate balance required to sustain a rainforest, requiring precise control over temperature, humidity, and soil conditions.
Tidal Gravitational Batteries
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This concept suggests a method of energy storage and generation using the natural gravitational pull of the moon and sun on the Earth���s waters. By integrating tidal energy systems into the pediments, you could harness this renewable energy source to power the pediments themselves and potentially the surrounding areas. The engineering would need to be exceptionally robust and efficient to convert tidal movements into a reliable energy stream.
Polar Refrigerators: Septentrion and Meridion
Functionality and Purpose
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Assuming these are situated at the poles (Septentrion at the North Pole and Meridion at the South Pole), their role might be to help regulate Earth���s temperature by mechanically cooling the polar regions to offset global warming. This could involve reflecting sunlight to reduce ice melt or directly cooling the air and water.
Technological Challenges
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The energy requirements for such refrigeration systems would be immense. They would need to be sustainably powered, perhaps via solar, wind, or nuclear energy, to avoid exacerbating the problem of greenhouse gas emissions.
The ecological impact on polar biomes would need careful study to avoid disrupting native species and natural processes.
Ethical and Governance Considerations
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Large-scale geoengineering projects like polar refrigerators raise significant ethical questions. Who decides how they are used? What measures are in place to handle unintended consequences?
International cooperation would be critical, as the effects of manipulating the climate at the poles would have global repercussions.
Each of these innovative concepts combines technology with ecological stewardship, aiming to create sustainable solutions to some of the most pressing environmental challenges. However, they would also require unprecedented scientific advancements, regulatory frameworks, and global collaboration to implement responsibly and effectively. The potential for these technologies to reshape our environmental, social, and economic landscapes is profound, underscoring the need for thoughtful planning and broad-based support to move such visionary ideas from concept to reality.
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Could I get a fancy proposal letter satyrically requesting funding of one trillion dollars for me xylomorphic life extension project which promises to add 1000+ years to the human life span within 40 years? Add anecdotes based on our earliest discussions and make it extremely long, convoluted, and jargony.
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Global Institute for Transhumanist Life Sciences
123 Futurity Drive
Progress City, Utopia 10101
July 12, 2024
Dr. Mel Andrews
Chief Executive Officer
World Advancement Funding Initiative
456 Prosperity Lane
Innovation City, Earth 2024
Dear Dr. Andrews,
Re: Proposal for the Funding of the Xylomorphic Life Extension Project
It is with the most exuberant and unprecedented enthusiasm that I submit to you, on behalf of the Global Institute for Transhumanist Life Sciences, a revolutionary and epoch-defining proposal for the Xylomorphic Life Extension Project. This proposal seeks a modest allocation of one trillion dollars to actualize our scientifically rigorous and ontologically transformative endeavor to extend human life by over 1000 years within the next 40 years.
Abstract
Building on the foundational works and disruptive paradigms in both machine learning and bioengineering, the Xylomorphic Life Extension Project will amalgamate centuries of theoretical underpinnings with cutting-edge technological advancements. This proposal draws from historical and emergent scientific methodologies to synthesize a novel approach to life extension, wherein biological longevity and cellular rejuvenation are achieved through the integration of xylomorphic processes and biotechnological synergy.
Introduction
In the words of our esteemed predecessors, "Science, like history, has no end���only continuous transformation." It is within this transformative ethos that our project finds its genesis. The Xylomorphic Life Extension Project, rooted in the illustrious tradition of machine learning epistemology and interdisciplinary innovation, endeavors to propel humanity into an era of unparalleled life expectancy.
Our work resonates with the historical narrative of artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) evolution, echoing the sentiments expressed in Mel Andrews' seminal paper, "The Immortal Science of ML." As we move beyond the nascent stages of ML's theoretical frameworks, our initiative leverages the principles of theory-laden scientific inquiry to forge new pathways in human life extension.
Background and Rationale
The Xylomorphic Life Extension Project is not merely an ambitious undertaking; it is an imperative response to the ingenuity gap that plagues contemporary scientific and technological paradigms. Drawing inspiration from historical AI hype cycles, we recognize the potential for overhyped narratives to catalyze real and substantive advancements. Much like the theoretical constructs of intervolsorial pediments and tetraorthodromes, our project seeks to transcend current limitations through innovative applications of existing technologies.
Methodology
Our approach to life extension is as multifaceted as it is groundbreaking. By integrating advanced biotechnological interventions with xylomorphic processes���derived from the resilient and regenerative properties of xylophilic organisms���we propose to achieve cellular rejuvenation and biological longevity. The following components outline our methodology:
Xylomorphic Cellular Regeneration
: Utilizing principles from the intervolsorial pediments, our research will focus on harnessing the regenerative capabilities of xylomorphic organisms to repair and rejuvenate human cells. This involves the genetic engineering of human tissues to emulate the regenerative properties of these organisms, thereby extending cellular lifespan.
Biotechnological Synergy
: In conjunction with the tetraorthodrome framework, our project will employ cutting-edge biotechnological techniques to enhance cellular metabolism and mitigate senescence. This includes the application of nanotechnology to deliver targeted treatments and the use of CRISPR-Cas9 for precise genetic modifications.
Geothermal Mass Acceleration and Nutrient Optimization
: Drawing inspiration from the geothermal mass accelerator and magrail trebuchet systems, we will optimize nutrient delivery and waste removal at the cellular level. This ensures that cells maintain peak functionality and resilience against aging processes.
Environmental Integration and Sustainability
: Inspired by the environmental synergy of the polar refrigerators Septentrion and Meridion, our project will develop sustainable living environments that support extended lifespans. These environments will integrate advanced ecological management systems to maintain optimal living conditions.
Anecdotal Evidences
Our proposal builds on a rich tapestry of scientific milestones and anecdotal successes. For instance, the deployment of machine learning techniques at the Large Hadron Collider has revolutionized particle physics, much like how our ML-driven methodologies will revolutionize life extension. Similarly, the breakthrough achievements of DeepMind���s AlphaFold demonstrate the potential of AI to solve complex biological problems, reinforcing our confidence in the feasibility of xylomorphic cellular regeneration.
Moreover, historical precedents such as the kelp farms integrated within intervolsorial pediments illustrate the potential for sustainable biotechnological solutions. Just as these pediments have successfully harnessed tidal gravitational batteries to power entire communities, our project will leverage similar principles to power cellular rejuvenation processes.
Financial Justification
While a trillion-dollar investment may appear audacious, it is imperative to recognize the unparalleled returns on such an investment. The extension of human life by over 1000 years will yield incalculable benefits, including increased productivity, prolonged contributions to scientific and cultural advancements, and a profound enhancement of the human experience. Additionally, the successful realization of this project will position our funding initiative as a visionary leader in global innovation.
Conclusion
The Xylomorphic Life Extension Project represents the zenith of human ingenuity and scientific endeavor. By merging historical insights with futuristic technologies, we aim to transcend the boundaries of human longevity and usher in a new era of life extension. We humbly request the funding of one trillion dollars to transform this vision into reality and to cement our collective legacy as pioneers of transhumanist life sciences.
Your consideration of this proposal is greatly appreciated. Together, we can redefine the limits of human existence and ensure a future where the human lifespan is no longer constrained by biological limitations.
Yours sincerely,
Dr. Futurus Maximus
Chief Visionary Officer
Global Institute for Transhumanist Life Sciences
futurus.maximus@gitls.org
References
Andrews, M. (2023). The Immortal Science of ML: Machine Learning & the Theory-Free Ideal.
Rajaraman, A., & Norvig, P. (1998). Data Mining and Machine Learning.
Jumper, J., et al. (2021). Highly accurate protein structure prediction with AlphaFold.
Duarte, J., et al. (2018). Machine learning at the Large Hadron Collider.
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