Suggestions for accessibility mod

[Computerfan23]

I want to create a list of suggestions for accessibility mods. SInce i am visual imparied and would like to see some implements. Here is what i would like to see:
1: Text to speech for all text boxes in the port which includes menu items and such.
2: Descriptions for the map like the names on it.
3: Announcing how many rupees and hearts you have left. What i mean is, I know i pickup rupees, but I would like a announcement from the speech how many I have. Also, announcing how many hearts i have max.
4: More sounds. Like I can hear when objects are near me, but have no idea exactly where they are. That could be like a sound que for that.
5: SOund quest for gaps between platforms.
6: Sound ques that lets me know if i have lined up the target correctly. What i mean is if i use the slingshot or any other ranged items and need to hit something, i need to know if i have lined up correctly to the target.
7: Sound que to let me know if i have left a area. This could be if i go to another area in the world.
8: Sound ques for npc and enemies. I would need to know if there is a npc near me to interact with or a enemy near. This could be like the normal npcs to talk to or if i have to pass the guards in the castle courtyard.

These are all the things i can think of for the moment. Basically, for me i can't see any visual stuff at all in the game. So would need any things like in the stuff i have suggested above.

[MelonSpeedruns]

I'll gladly add more sound queues for sure! Would you be fine with Navi being more vocal about what's around you? So if you go near an NPC, she goes "Hello!" but if an enemy gets close to you, she goes "Watch out!"

[Computerfan23]

I am glad you are open for adding more sound ques. How do you mean with navi being more vocal? I thought she already did that. What i mean is that it would be good to know what npc is there. Like in some audio games, we get a sound for npc or get a label saying the name.

[MelonSpeedruns]

Ahhh, I see. Yeah Navi is already vocal, but you need to press the Z button for her to say something. I implemented something just now where she does that without the need of Z-targetting. As far as telling you which NPC is in front of you, that could be a big task, as every actor in the game would need to have a readable name. It's something I want to attempt though!

[Computerfan23]

That sounds great. I actually saw the video about that being implemented. What about the stuff i mentioned about sound que for letting you know you have lined up with targets? And knowing where gaps are? And how about announcing how many rupees you have? And the amount of hearts?

[MelonSpeedruns]

For rupees and hearts, I could add that so it reads it out to you whenever you need them. So inside shops, there could be a text-to-speech that tells you how many rupees you have, and how much you need for this item. Same thing with hearts, though for those, you would have to press a button manually to hear the amount you have.

[Computerfan23]

That sounds like a good idea for rupees. Since you mostly use them in shops, so that would be good. What button would we press for hearts? To know how many hearts we have?

[azurejoga]

I'm glad you're looking to implement accessibility for the blind. an integration with the nvda screen reader would be interesting. for this we can use the nvda controller library. https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/tree/master/extras%2FcontrollerClient also audio cues to indicate objects, monsters and other things. We are happy with all the work done! for those who don't know what a screen reader is. https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda

[hackgrid]

@Computerfan23 I am sorry If I am stupid, but how do you can play the game, even with your requested additions?
I know what a screenreader is and always optimized my websites for them, but I did not know they can work for games?
I think that is great! :-) Could you upload a video how you play the game, or any 3D action game?
Do you have special pause functions or something for the action scenes in games?
Or like surround sound effects where e.g. enemies are or something, to get you a 3D picture of your surroundings, like a sonar?

[Computerfan23]

That sounds good. I agree with using nvda, that is very good screen reader. I also think sound ques for the stuff you mentioned is a great idea.

[Computerfan23]

Yes, a screen readers work for games too. You can use nvda to play them. I do have a 3d game that tells me where thinfs are. Also, there is a sonar function which lets me know where stuff are. There is a upcoming game which uses nvda as screen reader to play. And the dev uses a accessibility plugin. And yes, i would be able to play sine i mostly rely on audio.

[azurejoga]

Isso soa bem. Eu concordo com o uso do nvda, que é um leitor de tela muito bom. Eu também acho que perguntas de som para as coisas que você mencionou é uma ótima ideia.

the screen reader is used, to read texts displayed on the screen. like life status, hp. mana status, I can also browse inventories, I can also navigate through the game's menus, either from the settings or any other menu I can also see if my character is equipping with something or not, I can also understand the npc text dialogs. That thousands of other things are enough to have creativity to implement the Stuff.
We also have the audio cues, they serve to indicate where an object is either through beep sonar or something else, the audio cues also indicate enemy characters, places, and countless

[vaguerant]

I'm half-joking here, but a big part of the Ocarina of Time experience for sighted players is already having max rupees for about 75% of your total playtime and then picking up gold rupees, etc. in chests everywhere you go because the game has no idea how to balance its rewards.

As such, I think a couple of important audio cues to have would be something telling you when you reach your current wallet's maximum, and a reminder after you open any rupee chest that you are already at maximum. These do have non-zero practical use since they might remind a player to go spend some if they have anything left to buy, but they'd also serve to reinforce the general frustration that is part of the game, for better or worse.

[FloFluoro]

When the developers of Skullgirls expanded its accessibility options in 2015, one of the things they did was add the option to dump onscreen text (i.e. dialogue boxes, menus) to clipboard, so it can be read aloud by accessibility programs without relying on screen readers. I'm not sure if screen readers have improved enough to the point where a feature like this would be unnecessary, but it couldn't hurt to mention.

[RealAmethyst]

So I don't know if this is a thing, but I think you need to aim in this game, using a boe or something.
Would it be possible to ad a sound to indicate aiming? High pitch =on target and low =not on target?

[azurejoga]

Hello, would it be possible to add NVDA screen reader compatibility

[azurejoga]

Hello, would it be possible to add NVDA screen reader compatibility

[Computerfan23]

I noticed this got converted into a discussion. I have some additional things i would like to write down for accessibility.
So the Deku Tree is for the most part now fully doable, only thing missing is some sort of aiming cues. SInce while you can use Z-targeting for the walltulas, you can't do it for the Gold Skulltulas.
Also, there are a few Gold SKulltulas in other areas which require you to be able to aim to hit them. So aiming cues would be required.
There are a few mini-games that are not doable currently. As child, you can't do the shooting gallery mini-game in Castle Market since no aiming cues are implemented. ANd I don't know how it would be doable to make it accessible since you have to hit the rupees coming which requires being able to line up shots.
In Lon Lon Ranch, you have to do a mini-game in Talon's room where you have to find three special Cuccos. This mini-game is not doable since there is no way to distinguish between normal Cuccos and Special Cuccos.
In Kakariko VIllage, you can do a mini-game in where you have to find several Cuccos. I don't know how this would be doable. The Cuccos do make sound though.
In Goron City, after you have lit all four torches on the bottom floor, the large pot in the room will start spinning. you can throw bomb flowers into the pot to win prizes. This would require some work for accessibility since we can't tell if we manage to get bombs to land in the pot at all.
Also, in the Royal Family's Tomb, when you have to get the Sun's Song, you have to navigate around poisonous water. Since we can't see anything of the game, we can't know how close wer are to the water. SO we can easily get hurt and potentially die. I would suggest some kind of sound or notification for letting us know we get close.

Those were some suggestions that came to mind.

[azurejoga]

Hello! I'm here again to suggest NVDA screen reader for game/mod compatibility

[azurejoga]

Hello! I'm here again to suggest NVDA screen reader for game/mod

[Computerfan23]

There already is support for tts in the main release of SoH. Why do you want screen reader support?
For me, i would like some way to aim since you use slingshot, bow and hookshot. What would work for aiming?